Monday, December 12, 2011

1750 list and Dark Eldar Tactica thoughts


Our local group had a great tournament on Saturday.  I wasn't able to play the whole day, but came down as a fill in for one of the rounds my list was:

Asbrudel Vect

Haemonculus: Agonizer, liquifier gun
Haemonculus: 2 venom blades, liquifier gun
Haemonculus: 2 venom blades, liquifier gun

6 Wyches, Haywire Grenades, Hekatrix, Raider w/ Flickerfield
6 Wyches, Haywire Grenades, Hekatrix, Raider w/ Flickerfield
6 Wyches, Haywire Grenades, Hekatrix, Raider w/ Flickerfield
5 Wracks Liquifier, Acothyst w/ Hexrifle Venom 2 Splinter Cannons
5 Wracks Liquifier, Acothyst w/ Hexrifle Venom 2 Splinter Cannons
5 Warriors Blaster, Venom 2 Splinter Cannons

Ravager 3 dark lances, w/ Flickerfield
Ravager 3 dark lances, w/ Flickerfield
Ravager 3 dark lances, w/ Flickerfield

One thing I like to do to make life simple, give EVERYONE flickerfields.  No need to try to remember who has 'em and who doesn't. 

The Tournament was set up well and was a lot of fun.  This was the list I made when I thought I could possibly make it.  Two out of three missions were objective bases, so I brought a lot of troops.  I ended up ruining a Tyranid player's day.  He had a good list, and was a good player, but I ended up winning 3 objectives held by me, and one contested. 

A few things I have learned about my list and Dark Eldar in general.  I have found that, in true Dark Eldar style,  you can play some mind games with the dark kin.

1.  WYCHES ROCK.   Fleet, combat drugs, 4+ invulnerable in CC, Feel no Pain (with the Haemy attached), plasma grenades, haywires and hekatrix,  these ladies are great.  They can take out armor with their grenades, and are great against everybody in CC.  I have found the only wyche weapon I really like is the shardnet and impaler.  I usually don't take them though, because I would rather have another wyche than the special weapon, and I like to shoot their splinter pistols on the way in, if needed.  I find I get more out of the pistol and an extra wyche, than the special weapons. The 4+ dodge save is Demoralizing for the opponent.  It says, "I don't care you have lightning claws, bone swords, etc., sorry you only killed 1 wyche."  Very Demoralizing.  The haywire grenades ruin a tank commander's day too.  Love the ladies. 

2.  Asbrudel Vect is pure mean with a side order of mean.  Also very demoralizing.  He has a very reliable way to get wounds back, his base stats are amazing, and wargear keeps him alive.  In this battle he took out a tervigon-prime combo, 5 genestealers and a hive guard.  He is a beast.

3.  Venom Raider combo.  I really like having Venoms full of less effective troops, and raiders with the more effective troops.  Usually opponents will focus on taking out the venoms because they put out so many shots.  Then your raiders are safe to do what you want with the real threat once the ravagers, venoms, and raiders have softened everyone up.  Then you can swoop in on turn 2-4 and take the objectives leaving the opponent with no one left to stop you.

4.  TROOPS, TROOPS, TROOPS.  Whenever I build a list, I try to fit in some Incubi, scourges, reavers, trueborn, etc, but always ask, "why take them, when I can take some awesome troops with the abilities to kill stuff AND claim objectives."  Its great to do a lot of flying around shooting stuff for turn 1 and 2, and then jump on the objectives with your intact skimmers full of troops.  Many times I have picked up a warrior, wrack or Wyche squad with a venom or raider, and turbo boosted over to an objective. ( I know you can't move flat out the turn you pick someone up, but 12" is still a pretty far move AFTER the troops move in to embark)

5.  Hexrifles are fun and demoralizing.  I know that they aren't reliable, but they are scary for your opponent.
They are also great that the Acothyst can carry it WITH his standard 2, 4+ poison weapons.  He doesn't have to replace anything, just carries it on a holster when not in use.  Its nice to be able to reach out and hurt someone from 36" inches away if your venom ride has gone down, or only moves 6".
Saturday I was very lucky, and my acothyst hit, rolled a rending 6 to wound, and his Trygon Prime was nice enough to roll a 6 for his wound test, turning into an awesome, crystal, Trygon statue.  My whole Dark Eldar army got a picture with it after the battle.  They are trying to tow it back to commoragh in one piece.  The Acothyst, of course, got the crystal head to stand on during battle.  Great shot Bro!

6. Skimmers rock.  Its also pretty intimidating to see 9 skimmers sitting across from you.  Many people came up to us as the game was starting and commented on all the skimmers.  Psychology does start to play a role, and people get into react mode, and forget their gameplan, leaving them open to your nefarious plans.

Dark Eldar are a lot of fun.  I love the new models, the new rules, and how they released everything so quickly.  GW did a great job on this army.  Now, LETS SEE THE VOIDRAVEN!

6 comments:

  1. That's awesome about taking down a Trygon with a hexrifle, probably the one reason why it's worth taking.. and the fact that it turns enemies into crystal statues. ha ha

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  2. Nice report, but Tyranids are the poorest opponent army, whichyou can choose. Try this against IG / GK .

    PS: 7 wych squad havent worked well for me :-(

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  3. Matthew, I love hexrifles for the fun factor. It is great to turn a huge monster into crystal. Great fun.

    Raia, you are right, Nids are an easy target for DE, I was assigned a spot, and played the game. I did want to try this army against the IG player, but didn't get a chance. How have the wych squads been letting you down?

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  4. Hi,

    Nice list, but the double venom blade on each haemy does nothing apart from taking away his shooting attack. The extra points from dropping a venom blade from each haemy could be used to give 2 hexatrixs venom blades.

    What do you think of the blaster trueborn that most people use. Do you find your anti tank is sufficient without them ? If I have any worries about my list it is my anti tank tends to fail every now and then.

    Rathstar

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  5. Rathstar,

    I might be playing it wrong, but I don't see how the double venom blades take away the shooting attack if i am relying on the liquifier for his shooting. I use the 2 venom blades for 2 CCWeapons that wound on a 2+ after shooting his liquifier. I do lose the splinter pistol, but thats ok with me. He has 3 arms. 2 with venom blades and the liquifier. Am I playing it wrong?

    I like the trueborn with blasters. They can do some serious damage at a decent range. Most armies I play here aren't completely meched up, and I find my ravagers are sufficient for antitank in this army. I also use my wyches with haywires to take out tanks as well.

    Let me know about the venom blades. I think its ok since you trade out the CCW and splinter pistol with the venom blades, and then add the liquifier on top.

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  6. Rathstar, you were right. One venom blade per haemy is the way to go.

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